Photograph from the old Malibu home, 1997, with Tommy and Brandon
|This long interview was taken after Pamela reunited with her husband
Tommy Lee and during the production of the second season of her TV show
V.I.P. in late 1999. It's the usual candid thing, but read the remarks
of the interviewer of the womens magazine JANE
Pamela Anderson Lee tells Suzan Colón the naked truth about her life.
"The last time we spoke, I was like... I don't even know how I was getting through the day."
Introductory remarks by the interviewer: The last time we spoke,
four our June/July 1998 issue, Pamela Anderson Lee and her sons, Brandon
and Dylan(-Jagger), had just moved into their new house. They'd left the
old one after a highly publicized night when Pamela's husband, ex-Mötley
Crüe drummer Tommy Lee, lost it and beat her up in front of the kids.
Tommy went to jail; Pamela became a single mom and, as a by-product of
her willingness to expose herself in a very different way than the public
was used to, emerged as the heroine of abused women everywhere. But would
she get back together with him? "Who knows what's going to happen five
years down the road?" she told me at the time.
You know I'm a blabbermouth. I'll say whatever
on my mind. I was just talking to Katarina Witt in the makeup trailer.
She's an Olympic gold medalist, and she's so guarded because she's been
trashed by the press in Germany. She said, "How do you do all these interviews?"
I said, "You know, if you're just very candid and open and you tell the
truth, then you don't have to worry."
Since Tommy and I got back together, the tow
of us really are the ones who get left in the dust a little
|Tommy: "I'm in hell! It's like,
the worst traffic, and I'm not going to make it to anger management." Pam:
"Are you angry about that?"
Manners come later, I'm sure. [Giggles] I hope. Tommy is much more about discipline, where I believe in letting them just live out how they would act. I think there's a good balance. But I'll send them to a polishing school when they start going on their own an they can see, uh-oh, people don't really act this way. But I think it's great. It's expressive and fun.
Last Thanksgiving, Brandon and I went through
--- they went through all these things, Brandon specifically.
I said, "You know why Mommy works?" And he goes, "So Mommy can buy me toys
and look after our house and food, and all these things." Then he goes,
"Some little boys don't have mommies that work, so they need toys." So
he put all these toys in a box, so many that I was starting to go, "Wait,
I wanna keep that." We put, like, two big boxes of toys in the back of
the car, and we pulled up at this homeless shelter, and these kids came
out. It was a beautiful thing. Brandon was giving away things that he loved
so much that he wouldn't even share them with his own brother, and he was
like a little Santa Claus. This was, when he was 2.
Brian: Yes, they need you fully dressed and ready to go. Pamela: Fully dressed? That's a new one.Sometimes a show will be on and the kids will an explosion or whatever, and I'll go, "It's okay, it's a movie, it's just pretend." Now Brandon will say that when he spills something: "It's okay, it's just a movie, it's just pretend." And the other day he goes, "Mommy! Mommy!" I said, "I'll be there in a second." And he goes, "Mommy --- action!" He thinks that's what gets my attention, that yelling "Action!" clicks me into high gear.
"Then again, the kids will probably rebel against us and become librarians and accountants."
I write all these things down, too. I'll tell these stories when their
first girlfriends come over and I'm all wrinkled up in a chair with tattoos
all sagging down to my ankles.
Your friends say, "If you're not happy, just get out." [Sighs] Well, this person will always be in my life, and I'm happy that we're working things out and the kids are happy. You know what it is? Having children is the most wonderful part of your life. Every single thing in your relationship gets magnified --- how you act in your home, the things that you say. It's like putting your relationship into a fire and learning really, really quickly. But it's great. And right now I can actually take a breath, because we've gone through the transition period of us being back together and in the home and with our kids. They're really happy, and they go to their father a lot now. It's not perfect, it's getting better --- which is perfect. It's a work in progress.
[Pam's walkie-talkie/cell phone rings. It's
We seperated for more than a year. It's
a long time, but when we were back together, it seemed like we hadn't been
apart at all. After everything that we've gone through an just to be like...wow.
If you're in the public eye, people can't help but watch you and compare
their lives to yours, especially whe you're going through personal things.
It was really wonderful to get the support of everybody who said, "I'm
so glad you did this," and "I've gone through similar things." I heard
Final remarks from the interviewer Suzan Colón: One of the things I like best about Pamela --- besides her willingness to tell people what's going on in her life --- is that you never know what to expect from her. She's much smarter than people give her credit for. You know, this is her decision and her life.
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